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01.01.1970 01:0000    Comments: 6    Categories: You Asked (Text Files)      Tags:

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Dr. Smith,

 

Our church as recently started a program that appears to be a Christ-centered 12-step program. While it may be worth while, my concern is it will be addiction-management, rather than healing of the lies that may be at the root of the addiction. Could I have your thoughts?

 

Ed Smith's response...

 

In the early years of this ministry I was very excited about what Theophostic Prayer Ministry could accomplish and was very zealous about saying so. I have not changed my position at all in that I see miraculous results with people all of the time. However, my zeal was interpreted by some as my saying that nothing else in the ministry arena was effective. This is not so. Even what I did before learning to use the principles taught in this approach was effective in its context. The truth is, nothing is more effective in restoring people's lives than the touch of the Lord Jesus. However, the Lord is not bound by any method. He can do whatever He desires in what ever manner He chooses. I agree with you that there is a very good chance that many addictions are rooted in the vain attempt to manage emotional pain. However, once the addiction has taken root there is also the physical problem that must be attended to. 12-step groups can help meet the need of maintaining abstinence and cleaning out the system so that the person may attend to the lies that he or she is holding onto. You might seek to appeal to the leadership of your church to look into applying the Theophostic tool along side of the 12-step approach. The two fit very nicely together. There are many ministries that are doing this. One in particular is led by a man named Paul Hardy (Recovery for the City) in Virginia Beach. He can be contacted at mailto:[email protected]

 

I hope that this helps,

 

Ed Smith

 
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  •  Adam wrote 1706 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I have seen both sides of 12 step programs...

    Some people living a white knuckle experience, continual ups & downs and busts with condemnation and hopelessness - but others who turn to a genuine relationship and dependance on God (at least in the area of the addiction). 

    I do believe that once the reasons for a person turning to their addiction are dealt with, that the 12 steps can have a part to play in the physical / mental retraining of learned habits. As always it comes down to a persons heart motive. 

    Reminds me of the verse Matthew 6:22: 

    22 Your eye is a lamp that provides light for your body. When your eye is good, your whole body is filled with light. 23 But when your eye is bad, your whole body is filled with darkness. And if the light you think you have is actually darkness, how deep that darkness is!24 No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

    On a side note, we have noticed that people who maintain abstinance (by whatever means) are often much more triggered when they come into a session for TPM. Maybe a tip for those with recipients who have trouble connecting. 

     
       
     
     
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  •  Rebaakers wrote 1757 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I am a recovering alcoholic who came into the rooms of AA a year before learning Theophostic.  If it had not been for Theophostic Im not sure I could have stuck with the AA program.  I found that they both have helped me to become who I am today.  A Biblical Counselor who is touching lives daily through the program and through TPM in my counseling ministry.  For those who are familiar with the 12 steps, I tell them doing TPM is basically "Doing a verbal 4th through 8th step with the Holy Spirit instead of your sponsor".  It is important to do the steps with your sponsor first, but the some of the issues you are dealing with on your 4th step wont be helped by doing the steps and need further work with the Holy Spirit.

     
       
     
     
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  •  Rebaakers wrote 1757 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I am a recovering alcoholic who came into the rooms of AA a year before learning Theophostic.  If it had not been for Theophostic Im not sure I could have stuck with the AA program.  I found that they both have helped me to become who I am today.  A Biblical Counselor who is touching lives daily through the program and through TPM in my counseling ministry.  For those who are familiar with the 12 steps, I tell them doing TPM is basically "Doing a verbal 4th through 8th step with the Holy Spirit instead of your sponsor".  It is important to do the steps with your sponsor first, but the some of the issues you are dealing with on your 4th step wont be helped by doing the steps and need further work with the Holy Spirit.

     
       
     
     
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  •  Rebaakers wrote 1757 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    I am a recovering alcoholic who came into the rooms of AA a year before learning Theophostic.  If it had not been for Theophostic Im not sure I could have stuck with the AA program.  I found that they both have helped me to become who I am today.  A Biblical Counselor who is touching lives daily through the program and through TPM in my counseling ministry.  For those who are familiar with the 12 steps, I tell them doing TPM is basically "Doing a verbal 4th through 8th step with the Holy Spirit instead of your sponsor".  It is important to do the steps with your sponsor first, but the some of the issues you are dealing with on your 4th step wont be helped by doing the steps and need further work with the Holy Spirit.  This has been well recieved and I am very encouraged how this is helping many people!

     
       
     
     
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  •  hablitzel wrote 2405 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    Our experience has been that TPM and the 12-steps make a perfect marriage. The flaw in the above question is seeing the 12-steps as only addressing behavior, in this case ceasing a destructive one. The 12-steps are a structured Spiritual journey that any believer would benefit from. Recovery ministry helps a person come out of denial and begin in small steps to believe and allow God to do more and more to change their lives. We find fertile ground here for TPM.

     
       
     
     
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