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01.01.1970 01:0000    Comments: 0    Categories:     Tags:

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"I am ministering to a number of people following the Theophostic principles and guidelines and finding it incredibly effective.  The people who see and hear the Lord do very well.  However, I find that those who do not see or hear the Lord's voice clearly are harder to bring to truth.  Since I have seen clearly how Jesus reveals truth to others, I find myself feeling a bit helpless when it comes to those who really don't hear.  You have a couple of paragraphs in the manual about this but it doesn't really give me enough clarity on how to bring them to truth without inputting truth through what I hear for them... Am I free to assist her in this? ...I have been doing this (telling the person the truth) in the meantime so that she gets some relief.  I am unable to determine if she has shutdown traumatic events.  She speaks as though her upbringing was untroubled and there was no great trauma there.  Since we all believe lies even without trauma it seems like we should be able to get at them more readily than I have been able to do with her.  Any input you could add to assist us would be greatly appreciated."

 

Ed Smith's response:

 

You have asked multilayered questions here.  First, you asked me if you were free to do "this or that."  You are free to do anything that you choose to.  However, if what you are doing is something other than Theophostic Prayer Ministry (see the Ministry Session Guidelines www.theophostic.com ) then just call it something else and not TPM.  A guiding principle is this: "If the facilitator does anything to move the ministry session in any direction that he or she feels it ought to go, (ex: speaking the truth to the person, making suggestions as to what needs to happen, telling them what the lie may be, providing memory content information, guiding or directing, etc.) then what is happening is NOT Theophostic Prayer Ministry."  Theophostic Prayer Ministry is about the person making his or her own choices as to what he or she will feel, remember, identify, let go of, etc.  It is not about the facilitator making something happen. 

 

                 Second, you said, "I find myself feeling a bit helpless when it comes to those who really don't hear."  You also stated that you were supplying the "truth" for her that you thought she needed to hear. This is probably the emotional motivation that is causing you to feel compelled to "help her out" when she gets stuck.  I sense from your email that you are a little frustrated and getting desperate and acting out these feelings during the session by seeking to rescue her.  I encourage you to get ministry yourself around how it feels for people to be stuck and you not being able to help them.  Any emotions you are feeling that are not reflective of the peace of Christ is probably rooted in your own lie-based pain. 

When a person cannot hear form the Lord there is always a reason, but the solution is not in the facilitator fixing it.  Chapter Eight is an important chapter to read in the 2005 edition of the revised Basic Seminar Manual. It talks about the power of the will of the person and presents the "belief and choice" principle.  This principle is probably the most important aspect of this entire ministry process.  The ministry session stands or falls at this point.  What you have described to me in your email is a classic example of the power of the person's belief and choice and also how the facilitator will act on his or her own lie-based pain in a ministry session.  If she is not hearing from the Lord then it is for one reason; she believes something that is keeping her from doing so.  There is a belief that she is holding that is keeping her from moving forward into the truth that He has for her.  You giving her the truth is not the answer.  The moment that that the facilitator supplies the truth, the person will move from the experiential into the cognitive.  Only the Lord can meet her in the experience.  You stated that you have witnessed this with other people.  The same can be true for this woman as well.  I have been doing TPM for over ten years.  I have logged thousands of hours of ministry.  People come into freedom when they choose to come clean before the Lord with what they are holding and receive truth from Him.  This woman will hear when the lies she is holding concerning not moving forward are identified and exposed.  

 

     When I am working with a person who feels pain and is able to get to a memory, but not able to identify the lie or receive truth then I assume that they are making a choice in this place that is based upon something that he or she is believing.  Everything we do is rooted in our belief system.  Our belief system produces the emotional response that we are experiencing. I have often said, "We feel what we believe."  If the person is feeing the pain then we are very close to the belief behind it.  If you are actually in the memory and she is feeling the pain then you are very close.  A simple question such as "Why do you feel this emotion in this memory?" will usually suffice to move the person in the right direction.  I do not recall having a person that was feeling emotion in a memory that could not tell me why they were feeling such.  I have had many people that initially felt strong emotion but could not identify any memory source.  In these situations it was due to a belief that was being held concerning allowing themselves to remember. (example: "If I remember then I will die, it will be overwhelming, I might get stuck and not be able to get out, it will be too much to bear..."  These "guardian lies" stand in the way of moving forward.  However, this is very common and I deal with this in detail in the seminar manual. 

    

      Lastly, you stated, "I am unable to determine if she has shutdown traumatic events."  In TPM you do not need to determine if she has repressed memory or not.  If she does, it will surface when she chooses to feel and remember.  Getting her to this place is not your job.  I need to go back to what I just said about your own emotional status when doing ministry.  If it feels bad to you that she cannot hear, move forward, find freedom, then you are probably being triggered and exposed yourself.  It is the Lord's task, not yours, to move her to freedom.  This same freedom is only withheld from her by her own choosing.  Re-read the chapter on the will.  What I say there is very important.

 

I just finished putting together a seven DVD series of live ministry sessions that I did with people from different parts of the country.  In these sessions you will see the "belief and choice" principle over and over again in operation.  I hope to begin working on the next series soon that will be composed of more "difficult" cases.  If you do not have this series, you can obtain it from our web site at www.theophostic.com.

 

I hope that this helps

 

Ed Smith

 
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