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You all are coming to our church this year for the New Basic Training and Apprenticeship training conference and although I agree with Theophostic principles, I also know we have seen people's lives changed by the way we present inner-healing. We call our ministry "inner-healing and prayer." I have never called our ministry "Theophostic Ministry" because I honor Ed's request that if the procedures are not exactly the same; don't use the name. We do not offer our opinions, insight or create visualization or other taboo things that TPM also rejects. The main difference is Theophostic Ministries starts out with the feeling and then ask Jesus about the truth. We ask Jesus into the situation and then offer our feeling. We do ask Jesus to take them back to any memory or place that he would like to speak truth to them. Or we may start with asking Jesus are you here? He always shows himself and always lines up with the word. He tells them some wonderful things to release and bring truth. We have the person tell Jesus how they feel. And then ask Jesus if he wants them to feel the way they are feeling (fear, anger,rage,sad, etc.) then I ask them to ask him for his truth. Once he speaks his truth, healing and understanding comes.


Ed Smith's response:


First let me affirm you in doing whatever form of ministry you and your church feels called to do. I have never said that TPM was the ONLY way that God is working in His Church today. However, you have listed several significant differences in the approach that you are using and what is taught in TPM. I appreciate that you are not calling what you are doing TPM and naming it something else.


You said that "the main difference is Theophostic Ministries starts out with the feeling and then ask Jesus about the truth." There is some need for clarification here. It is accurate to say that we start with the feeling since this is what people bring into the ministry session. People come for ministry because they are feeling something that they do not like feeling (or did feel bad before the session but are presently shut down emotionally). Theophostic Prayer Ministry teaches that people feel what they believe. The emotion they feel will match the belief that they are harboring. The emotional duress that they are experiencing is connected and rooted in what they believe. Changing the feeling is not the goal of TPM but an outcome of mind renewal once the lies are displaced with truth. TPM further teaches that belief is held in memory experience at some level since everything we believe we learned in a life experience over the course of life. We do not offer up Jesus asking for truth since the emotion is not what needs to be resolved but rather the lies that the person is holding. We use the emotion to identify the belief since the feeling is a bridge that is connected to the belief that is being held by the person. If we ask the Lord to reveal truth to an emotion the person has not yet come to the place of knowing what it is that he is believing.


I also have a concern about offering up Jesus an emotion and then asking Him to take us someplace in memory. It has to do with a new teaching found in the revised Basic Seminar Manual (2005 edition). I call this principle the "belief and choice" principle. This new teaching is probably the most significant revision that has been added to the new manual and New Basic Seminar. I will be teaching this at the training I will hold in your church this year. What follows is some of what I teach in the New Basic Seminar Manual with some expanded commentary;


"Jesus will not expose anything that a person is not willing to reveal, nor will He "tell" the person his memory or any details held in a memory take them any place in memory without their willful choosing to go there. Jesus cannot do this without violating the person's will in the process. The person does not remember what he needs to know because he doesn't want to for some reason and therefore is making a free will choice to be where he is. I was mistaken early on to think that people were stuck for any other reason other than "belief and choice." They believed something and thus made a choice based upon that belief. People always move forward in this process when they identify what it is they believe that has them stuck and therein find truth from the Lord thus freeing them to makes a choice to move forward. By allowing people to be responsible to make their own discoveries, you thwart any attempt on their part to use you to keep from going where they need to go. If you figure it out for them, you allow them to hide and wait dependently on you. Freedom is their choice. If you ask Jesus to reveal the memory or any aspect of the memory you are now standing on "shaky ground" since the person did not make the discovery on their own but by way of "revelation." This should be avoided and is totally unnecessary anyway in the process. People will go where they need to go and remember what they choose to remember when they are at the place where they are willing to do so.


I once received a letter from a person who said she discovered that she had been sexually abused because Jesus told her that she was after He "took" her to the memory. I cringed when I read this and had the thought "I wonder what 'Jesus' she was listening to." Jesus will not tell us anything that we do not already know about our memories. We may not know something consciously at first, but we know everything we need to know to move to the place where we can find freedom. Everything we need to know (as far as memory content) is somewhere in our heads. We do not need Jesus to tell us what happened; we simply need to be willing to look at what we already know at some level. The very fact that we are having emotional trouble says that we remember something. Not being able to remember has everything with either belief and choice or the fact that we simply do not have a memory to access.


In summary, Jesus will not reveal memory content or tell a person what happened in the event apart from the person's willful choosing. If He did otherwise He would have to violate the free will of the person. Also, be especially careful when a "Jesus" shows up and accuses someone in the "memory" of a wrongful act. I had a lady once write me a letter sharing how "Jesus" had told her that she had been sexually abused by her father when she was a baby. She said had no real memory recall of the event but took at face value what "Jesus" had said. She said that the "revelation" had come in the context of some very bad feelings that were stirred up in her during a ministry session. I encouraged her to go back to this place in her mind where she received this message and try to feel the emotions that where attached to this "revelation." I also asked her to consider the possibility that this "Jesus" was an imposter. Later it was discovered that the message was demonic and the emotions around the "revelation" where connected to a real place in a conscious memory that she did not initially wanted to look at. As she was willing to visit the real memory place holding the emotional pain and find truth and renewal, the other "revelation" was easily dismissed along with its messenger."


Do you have a copy of the new revised edition of the seminar manual (2005 edition)? I deal with this issue in the new edition. There is an entire chapter on the importance of knowing the free will of a person.


I am excited that you will be attending the training at your church. I will be proving many live demonstrations where you will see the process flow. We are seeing very good results especially as we have applied the principle of "belief and choice." This principle is new to the revised training and will be shared in the Apprenticeship and New Basic training. I will look forward to seeing you there.


I hope that this helps


Ed Smith

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