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10.03.2007 20:3131    Comments: 2    Categories: General Articles      Tags: womb memory  preverbal  memory  repressed  

Womb Memories

(This artical is a revised and updated version originally provided in the Basic Training Manual 2007.)


When you are facilitating this ministry, don’t be alarmed if you encounter a situation in which a person reports preverbal “memories” as far back as the womb. I put the word memories in parenthesis because I cannot say for certain that what is being reported is actually a memory as I understand memory to be.  Nevertheless, it is not uncommon, even though it raises many questions because a fetus would have limited cognitive awareness of what was happening at the time. The mind would not yet have developed to the stage of forming memories as we understand them; however experiential knowledge is different from cognitive knowledge.   I do believe that little babies have experiences that are recorded at some level in their minds.  Since they lack language to interpret what is happening the remembering must be encoded at an experiential level more than a cognitive rational level.


Some research scientists believe that a fetus feels pain and experiences emotion while in the mother’s womb, especially in the final months before birth. If the mother feels depressed, or has anger, and hatred for the child, the fetus very well may feel these emotions, without being able to interpret the data. The fetus does not actually think, “My mother hates me,” but the experience could be recorded at some level and become the grid for later interpretations of similar emotional experiences.


I am not a neuroscientist and have not been trained in the field of brain science, but I am a pragmatist and learn by observation. God’s Word states, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you” (Jeremiah 1:5). There is much we do not know about what happens in the womb or even before conception. This verse says that I was known by God even before I existed!


If people report a preverbal “memory” or even a womb memory, I will invite them to allow whatever is occurring to happen without trying to figure it out logically. Such an experience may supersede reason, so ask them to simply experience it. After they have done so, we would look for any emotional pain present and identify the lies causing such.  Once the lies are identified we would ask the Lord to reveal His truth.  Here again the content of the “memory” is not the reason for the emotional pain but rather the belief held in it.  You are looking for emotional pain and the belief producing it not verification of memory content.  Therefore it is not necessary to ever know for certain about the validity of the “womb memory” if you are able to identify the belief held in it.  

I hold very loosely anything that the person reports as far as memory content.  For example, if a person reported they were abused by someone when they were six weeks old while lying in their crib, I would have difficulty in believing they could know this with any certainty.   Even if they say that the Lord revealed this information to them, I still would not assume it was valid.  I say this since there is no way to ever know for certain unless the perpetrator confessed to doing such.  However, I do believe that people can hold lie-based thinking in the context of their imagination.  It does not matter if the context is real or imagined the lie is the same and can cause the same negative repercussions.  If a person said to me that they had a memory of being abused when they were three days old in the crib I would ask them what this thought caused them to feel.  I would follow this emotion to the root belief causing it and have them look to the Lord for His truth. 

I would not ask the Lord to verify the “memory” content.  To do this is to invite the person’s imagination to come into play.  Whenever we ask the Lord to provide information that cannot be verified we are open to being deceived. Be very careful when dealing with any memory that the person declares that Jesus has revealed to them.  The Lord does not reveal memories that the person is not already at least pre-consciously aware.  Memories that are "revealed" and not a part of the person's own conscious memory are more likely imagination.  There is no need for the Lord to reveal anything since the person will remember anything they have "forgotten" when they are at a place where they are ready to remember.  The "belief and choice principle" taught in the TPM training applies here.

After they have received a message from the Lord concerning the lie they believed and if they enter into true peace and the outcome of all of this is transformation in their life, I say, “Glory to God and thank you, Jesus,” even though I don’t understand how it all happened. I am becoming more relaxed about not having all the answers. Here again we are not looking for memory validation, but rather the Holy Spirit replacing lies with His truth. We will probably never be able to validate that a preverbal or womb memory is accurate. Therefore, we should not assume that it is. However, if the person identifies a lie that is causing pain in the context of the “so-called” memory, herein we can ask the Lord for truth.


Several years ago I was leading a seminar and talking about using Theophostic Prayer Ministry with people struggling with depression. Right in the middle of the presentation, a woman raised her hand to make a comment. She said that she had struggled with depression all of her life and even as a small child had always felt a “dark cloud” over her. She reported that she was currently being treated with antidepressants, but the “cloud remained.”


I asked the woman if she would allow the feelings of depression to surface and be willing to follow them to their source of origin. She agreed. As she focused on the depression a few moments passed, and she suddenly opened her eyes and said, “This cannot be!” I asked her what it was she was experiencing. She reluctantly said, “This is impossible, but I feel like I am in my mother’s womb!”


Many people have asked, “How can a person remember something before the brain is cognitively able to do so? In other words, “How can we remember before we can remember?” Yet the fact that so many different people have reported womb memories causes me to believe that they must have some validity. It’s not our responsibility to determine the authenticity of any womb or precognitive experience that a person reports, but to look for the source of the emotional pain.


The woman in the seminar said she felt painful sadness as a child in the womb. As she allowed herself to experience it, I asked her why she thought she was feeling what she was feeling. Almost immediately she began to weep deeply and cry out, “She didn’t want me.” Other people with whom I have ministered report similar lie-based thoughts such as, “There must have been something wrong with me,” “It was my fault,” or “I was in the way, an inconvenience.”

After a time, I invited the Holy Spirit to reveal His truth to this woman, and she slowly became quiet until she was peaceful. She looked up at me with a smile of relief and said, “The cloud is gone!” She reported to the group that she felt the lifelong cloud of depression completely lift off in that moment. This does not mean she never had another bad feeling again, but the depression rooted in her “womb memory” was replaced with peace.


I believe that the woman may have had feelings of rejection as a fetus. Although she lacked the cognitive ability to think of them as such, this experience may have become a frame of reference for later events, and she was inclined to feel rejection deeply. It’s possible that the interpretation, “I was not wanted,” was given by the Holy Spirit as an explanation, rather than a memory, as an understanding of the source of the original pain that may have been experientially processed. Hear me when I say that this is only an opinion and theory. I honestly do not know how this can all be. Nevertheless, I have watched a significant number of people move from real pain to lasting peace as they work through preverbal and  “womb” memories.


In a ministry session, if people ask me if I think that what they are experiencing is real, I say I do not know, but that it is not too hard for God to do these things. I simply ask them if they are willing to allow whatever happens to happen, and to trust the Lord to direct us and keep us on track. If they agree, we proceed with the basic principles.


If a person reports being hurt by someone in the “womb” or in a preverbal stage of life, it is important that you do not assume that this is accurate memory content.  No one should ever be accused of a crime based upon a preverbal or “womb” memory.  The person reporting the memory may be convinced that it is true and that what they remembered did indeed occur.  Nevertheless, it is important that the person moves very slowly and with great caution before confronting anyone.  Much ministry is needed and complete forgiveness must be achieved before confronting any potential perpetrator based upon these types of memory.  If at some point a person desires to confront his or her “perpetrator” she should be at a point of peace and only do so with genuine compassion and not revenge or resentment.  If I am working with a person who wants to confront someone, I always have them check to see what they are feeling.  If they are not at a place of peace and complete resolve then they are not ready to confront.  Confrontation should be motivated from a heart of compassion with the purpose of restoration.  If they do confront their assumed wounder and the person denies any wrong doing, then it must be let go.  Since there is no way to verify the validity of the memory it must be left with the Lord. 

If the person arrived at such a memory because the ministry facilitator asked her to envision being in the womb or made any other suggestions, then the facilitator is not applying the Theophostic Prayer Ministry principles. Any kind of suggestion, guided imagery or leading question is inappropriate.

 
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  •  MRippo wrote 1476 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    Wow, what a fantanstic article. I really like that you say it is not the memory that is important, but the belief that was established. I often tell my clients, when they get in touch with an emotion, to go back to the first time they felt the emotion, whether they think they are making it up or not. This seems to free them to get to the root belief quickly and not get to caught up in whether the memory actually or happened or the details of it.

    I have also learned a lot about the science of epigenetics from a cell biologist named Bruce Lipton. His research at Stanford University’s School of Medicine, between 1987 and 1992, revealed that the environment, operating though the membrane of the cells, controlled the behavior and physiology of the cell, turning genes on and off. His discoveries, which ran counter to the established scientific view that life is controlled by the genes, presaged one of today’s most important fields of study, the science of epigenetics.

    He basically discovered that we absorb messages from our environment/mother when we are in the womb and in order to be able to survive in the environment we are born into, our cells have to be adapted to it already before we are born. So, this is where the beliefs we take on are absolutely crutial to our survival as babies when we are totally dependent on our mother for survival. Our genes actually express themselves based on the messages we have recieved about the environment we'll be born into. Can we change our genes, when we change our perceptions about our memories, absolutely.

    There is a very fascinating youtube video by a Christian neurologist named Dr. Leaf. She actually shows the synapses in the brain self destructing when a belief is not longer believed and new synapses forming when new beliefs are taken on. New beliefs change our biology!!! You can find her on youtube.

     
       
     
     
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  •  MRippo wrote 1476 Days Ago (neutral) 
     
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    Wow, what a fantanstic article. I really like that you say it is not the memory that is important, but the belief that was established. I often tell my clients, when they get in touch with an emotion, to go back to the first time they felt the emotion, whether they think they are making it up or not. This seems to free them to get to the root belief quickly and not get to caught up in whether the memory actually or happened or the details of it.

    I have also learned a lot about the science of epigenetics from a cell biologist named Bruce Lipton. His research at Stanford University’s School of Medicine, between 1987 and 1992, revealed that the environment, operating though the membrane of the cells, controlled the behavior and physiology of the cell, turning genes on and off. His discoveries, which ran counter to the established scientific view that life is controlled by the genes, presaged one of today’s most important fields of study, the science of epigenetics.

    He basically discovered that we absorb messages from our environment/mother when we are in the womb and in order to be able to survive in the environment we are born into, our cells have to be adapted to it already before we are born. So, this is where the beliefs we take on are absolutely crutial to our survival as babies when we are totally dependent on our mother for survival. Our genes actually express themselves based on the messages we have recieved about the environment we'll be born into. Can we change our genes, when we change our perceptions about our memories, absolutely.

    There is a very fascinating youtube video by a Christian neurologist named Dr. Leaf. She actually shows the synapses in the brain self destructing when a belief is not longer believed and new synapses forming when new beliefs are taken on. New beliefs change our biology!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XNe8KlZZn0

     
       
     
     
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